SirwLove: good morning
SirwLove: Eagles may soar, free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.
SirwLove: It is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
SirwLove: Three buddies die in a car crash, and they go to heaven to an orientation.
They are all asked, "When you are in your casket and friends and family are mourning upon you, what would you like to hear them say about you? The first guy says, "I would like to hear them say that I was a great doctor of my time, and a great family man."
The second guy says, "I would like to hear that I was a wonderful husband and school teacher which made a huge difference in our children of tomorrow."
The last guy replies, "I would like to hear them say, "Look! He's moving!"
SirwLove: roses are red violets are blue... Im gonna fuss if I can't talk to you
indieslave: hehehe.
indieslave: sorry i was in the bathroom
indieslave: who said you cant talk to me?
SirwLove: hehehehe
SirwLove: I left you some funnies
indieslave: i am signed on here for you dork
SirwLove: no sheesh
indieslave: well, well, well...... jeeeeeeeeeez
SirwLove: computers suck
SirwLove: its all the computers fault
indieslave: why is your computer doing that so much lately
indieslave: isnt it your work computer?
SirwLove: yes... but I can't go to the IT guy and say....hey dude I can't make my yahoo messenger stay signed on ...they'll think I'm not working hard enough!
hey dude I can't make my yahoo messenger stay signed on
indieslave: lol.. funny i can tell my IT guy
SirwLove: adds "dork" to the list that now includes "cowboy"
indieslave: ride em cowboy thats what i like to call my men when they get all twisted and bent out of shape
SirwLove: so maybe I can still be "one of YOUR men"
SirwLove: lol funny girl
indieslave: yes, i am a funny girl
indieslave: got me a months worth of diet pills... so i am in a very talkative moooood
SirwLove: so today we are talking about God and faith... how's that as a compromise?
indieslave: um interesting
indieslave: u know now that i think about it.. you have mentioned your minister/pastor to me before
SirwLove: I mean ...knowing me... and how I dont' let things go... a new subject to get on to is a good choice
indieslave: yes, and you should let it go
indieslave: we can talk about anything you want.. just not anything about yesterday
SirwLove: My father was a methodist minister
SirwLove: he's now a unitarian
indieslave: oh cool, my dad was an athiest
indieslave: atheist
indieslave: ?
indieslave: he is unitarian?
SirwLove: so he doesn't teach or believe what he taught me
SirwLove: lol
SirwLove: yes
indieslave: how is that for ya?
indieslave: interesting
indieslave: yes
SirwLove: and here's a twist for you
SirwLove: sex and religion
indieslave: does that piss you off?
SirwLove: and orgasm
SirwLove: orgasm is God's way of forgiving ....
SirwLove: it is forgiveness ....
SirwLove: and a connection with the infinite
indieslave: what?
SirwLove: and that is why we say.... "oh God"
SirwLove: when we come
SirwLove: cum cum
SirwLove: thank you God... mmmmmmmmmmmm
indieslave: um.. okay, this is going to sound weird
indieslave: but i had that revelation this morning after d and i had sex (we had sex yay)
SirwLove: listens
indieslave: because.. i always say Oh God.. and dave and i talked about it the other day.. i asked him why he thought so many people said it.. without even realizing
indieslave: well, we didnt really come to a conclusion
indieslave: but this morning(or around 1am)
indieslave: i came.. (would have said oh God, but i had a dick in my mouth), but my husband said it as he came
indieslave: and at that point.. i thought.. that it really is a religious experience.. that he is bringing us closer to him somehow by letting us feel that
SirwLove: an illustration of what I said
SirwLove: exactly
indieslave: yes
SirwLove: God wants us to feel good... and
indieslave: but i never thought about it until this morning
indieslave: weird that you would bring it up
SirwLove: I think that heaven ...being with God... has got to be as blissful as that big O
indieslave: yes? keep goin
indieslave: yes.. it must be
indieslave: how kind of him
SirwLove: now what is life about... it is a journey that teaches us about how to love God better
SirwLove: we are here so that our soul learns
SirwLove: and brings that glory back to God
indieslave: interesting theory
SirwLove: sometimes we DON'T learn and we fail but God still loves us.... like a parent loves a child
SirwLove: most importantly is that we are in fact... all part of ONE
SirwLove: our souls take this journey away from God
SirwLove: and in this life...
SirwLove: bounded by Time and what is apparently reality
SirwLove: we are to learn something that brings that love back to God
SirwLove: so we have free will
SirwLove: and free will is the key
SirwLove: God ...like a loving parent
indieslave: and all this is done because?
SirwLove: wishes that there was not the ugliness and suffering
SirwLove: but can do nothing more than be a guide
SirwLove: like a game show host can't interfere with the game
SirwLove: if we knew the outcome of a baseball game or Jeopardy or anything
SirwLove: we wouldn't do it
SirwLove: so we must live life with blinders
SirwLove: not knowing what of course we think we already know
SirwLove: but the soul MUST learn
SirwLove: **********************
indieslave: i like this conversation ... it makes me feel safe
SirwLove: all of our souls ...together - all of that energy because part of God
SirwLove: and God does all this why?
SirwLove: to be loved
SirwLove: love is the one thing
SirwLove: the only thing
SirwLove: the real link
SirwLove: the point
SirwLove: God wants to know love
SirwLove: we are made in his image so its not hard to understand that longing to be truly loved
SirwLove: and just like with your kid
SirwLove: you want to be loved...but you don't value it as much if you manipulate it from her
SirwLove: you want to show the way and have her come to loving you freely
SirwLove: not force her to it
SirwLove: so free will is important
SirwLove: to love
SirwLove: once that is understood
SirwLove: then we see that
indieslave: and you learned all this where?
SirwLove: the statement ....how can God allow such suffering here on earth is bullshit
SirwLove: because God is not involved
SirwLove: we do it to ourselves
SirwLove: and God suffers ...as a parent watching his kid at day care
indieslave: so what if i believe in God, but have trouble with the concept of Jesus?
SirwLove: learning the lessons
SirwLove: ooooooooooh cool you got all that so lets move on then good!
SirwLove: where did I learn all this?
SirwLove: wow ... 45 yrs of wanting to know
SirwLove: asking talking reading
indieslave: i see.. and coming to your own conclusions as well? or were they pointed out to you, just as you are pointing them out to me?
SirwLove: some of each I'd say
SirwLove: I am open to spiritual guidance
indieslave: i was never one to believe that God created suffering...or allows it.. i know He is love
SirwLove: right
indieslave: when you are talking to me about God, are we talking about God or Jesus?
SirwLove: God is a hopeful spectator... knowing that to interfere means to ruin the point of our journey
SirwLove: God
SirwLove: now we can talk Jesus ...lol
SirwLove: now
SirwLove: as Christians... we are challenged to believe some incredible things... miracles in fact
SirwLove: SirwLove: God is a hopeful spectator... knowing that to interfere means to ruin the point of our journey
SirwLove: God
SirwLove: now we can talk Jesus ...lol
SirwLove: now
SirwLove: as Christians... we are challenged to believe some incredible things... miracles in fact
indieslave: alrighty then, cool
SirwLove: let me suggest
SirwLove: God didn't like be an uninvolved hopeful observer
SirwLove: its hard to be a parent ...nose pressed to the glass ...watching your kid in day care
SirwLove: getting slugged or crying
SirwLove: God hears our prayers... as stupid as they are sometimes
SirwLove: and if that is true...( which I believe )...
SirwLove: then it is understand able that God
SirwLove: would find some way to help
SirwLove: and for Christians... that is Jesus
SirwLove: now ...its been 2000 yrs
SirwLove: and we know humans
SirwLove: and how they can change a story
SirwLove: we know the "Church" as an institution can withhold the truth
SirwLove: we know that it gets deleted, altered, translated and changed
SirwLove: so I look for what is the deeper meaning and the point ...
SirwLove: not the details
SirwLove: not the way to disprove the miracle
SirwLove: but what is the message
SirwLove: God so loved the world that he gave his only son
SirwLove: what greater gift can God give... pretty clever actually
SirwLove: and Jesus is part of God... just like we all are...
SirwLove: but Jesus has the balls to say
SirwLove: I am the son of God
SirwLove: and you are... I am ...we all are sinners
SirwLove: none of us better than another
SirwLove: all to be loved
SirwLove: if we only love God
SirwLove: and Jesus set the example in his life...
SirwLove: set the bar very high...
SirwLove: but none the less... showed the way
SirwLove: and then suffered
SirwLove: and was killed
SirwLove: we all ask god
SirwLove: God don't you understand my suffering?
SirwLove: of course God does
SirwLove: that is why he came to us to live as a man ...to understand our suffering in a very human way
SirwLove: of course God can forgive our Sins
SirwLove: God knows what it is to be human
SirwLove: through the life of Jesus
SirwLove: that is the link
SirwLove: that is the real miracle
SirwLove: not every one on earth HAS to come to God thru Christ
SirwLove: but it is a good way
SirwLove: and an understandble way
SirwLove: and once we accept that we are sinners...capable of our worst
SirwLove: we can then say
SirwLove: I want forgiveness
SirwLove: and we can look to Jesus...
SirwLove: who said... love me and love God
SirwLove: and be forgiven
SirwLove: go and sin no more...
SirwLove: do your best and love
indieslave: so you believe God walked the earth as Jesus, not that he was literally his 'son', right?
indieslave: that Jesus, was God
SirwLove: the rest of the baloney about miracles and virgin birth and where or how is body was resurected...is insignificant
indieslave: right right
SirwLove: I believe Jesus was a human... invested with special insight...
SirwLove: someone that recognized
SirwLove: what we should all know
indieslave: but you said sirwlove58: God knows what it is to be human
sirwlove58: through the life of Jesus
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: God became flesh
indieslave: sirwlove58: that is why he came to us to live as a man ...to understand our suffering in a very human way
SirwLove: thus the Father / Son and Spirit
indieslave: but............ sirwlove58: I believe Jesus was a human... invested with special insight
SirwLove: part of the mystery then...
SirwLove: Jesus
SirwLove: both man and God
SirwLove: and a lesson for us all
SirwLove: God is part of each of us
SirwLove: we are all children of God
SirwLove: brothers and sisters
indieslave: see. that is the question, i can never get answered..............
SirwLove: as was Jesus the man
indieslave: do Christians believe that Jesus was an entity separate from God... Do they believe he was actually God's son, Do they beleive that Jesus was God
SirwLove: it is called the Trinity
SirwLove: and has been argued for centuries
SirwLove: what Catholics believe is slightly different that protestants
SirwLove: and orthodox etc
SirwLove: I don't think it matters what you call it
SirwLove: we are all of the same stuff
indieslave: i seeee
SirwLove: God... son... children of God
SirwLove: we are all part of God
indieslave: it does matter to some - not to me
indieslave: as long as it doesnt matter to God, i dont care
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: love is the point
SirwLove: love is the journey
SirwLove: its not the distance it is the ride
indieslave: i see
SirwLove: and I think the hindus have it right in that
indieslave: so what if i light a green candle to bring good luck with money.. will i go to hell?
SirwLove: our souls must keep on that journey till we get it or
SirwLove: end up with the devil hating
SirwLove: ... temptation to hate and be our worst is what sends us to hell
SirwLove: but even that is not enough
SirwLove: it is rejecting love
SirwLove: rejecting God's love that sends us to hell
SirwLove: both mentally and physically in this life
indieslave: but rejecting Jesus?
SirwLove: I think the ultimate HELL then
SirwLove: is being sent back to live another life of pain cuz you didn't get it the first time
indieslave: is on earth?
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: this life
SirwLove: can be hell
SirwLove: or the path to heaven
SirwLove: it is our choice
indieslave: ahh..
indieslave: yes. i see.. especially if heaven is like a constant orgasm
indieslave:
indieslave: i like your philosophy
indieslave: a lot
SirwLove: you made me think yesterday ...alot
SirwLove: when you said we had not talked about this
SirwLove: it is important
indieslave: you are an amazing person, Joel
indieslave: yes, especially since we consider ourselves to be friends
SirwLove: it is why....( oh here he goes again )
SirwLove: I feel so badly when I hurt someone
SirwLove: I am not here to hurt
SirwLove: I am here to love
SirwLove: so no matter what I do ...if I hurt... I have failed
SirwLove: and no matter what I do
SirwLove: if I love
SirwLove: I have done what God wanted
SirwLove: "love your enemy"
indieslave: darling..this is the last time i will tell you.. i am not hurt
SirwLove: especially the hardest request
indieslave: so hence your dilemma with divorce
SirwLove: yes that too
indieslave: interesting things you have in your mind
SirwLove: I truly love when you call me darling ...fuck I love that
indieslave: my concept of God is very similar to yours, however, i couldnt have ever put it so eloquently
SirwLove: all my life I have prayed...
SirwLove: since I was a little boy hoping for a sign
SirwLove: one day I got a message... and I'm on the phone will tell you about that in a few
SirwLove: okay back
indieslave: yay
SirwLove: okay so about 2 yrs ago
SirwLove: on a Friday night
SirwLove: I was so upset and about ready to give up and die
SirwLove: I was praying please please...give me some word to know you are there God
SirwLove: and fuck me if I didn't get a real answer... it was spooky
SirwLove: 3 words
SirwLove: as I said the hardest request
SirwLove: "love your enemy"
SirwLove: and I have struggled to fill that one request...
SirwLove: of course it is easy to love ...those we love
SirwLove: but to love your enemy
SirwLove: ah!
SirwLove: makes me wish I hadn't asked for help sometimes
SirwLove: so there ya go... my take on God
SirwLove: I love this subject
SirwLove:
SirwLove: here is something I don't like to admit... I love you
indieslave: what? wait..... what was that last part there?
indieslave: lol
indieslave: of course, you love all Gods creatures
indieslave: i always love my enemies..
indieslave:
SirwLove: to me you are a real friend... and the thought of you pulling away... hurts 1000x times more than any stupid internet friend
SirwLove: if you get my drift
indieslave: i get your drift man
SirwLove: at least I expect most internet friends to drift away and hurt me...so I am usually ready for it... but you ... I have invested trust and passion and care...
SirwLove: I can't abide the thought of you feeling second ... you are always in my pocket and in the palm of my hand.
SirwLove: shuts up
indieslave:
SirwLove: one thing I can say
SirwLove: I miss reading your stuff
indieslave: what stuff? my journal?
SirwLove: yep
indieslave: thank you.. i miss writing in it
SirwLove: I told venita last night that the way you write... always inspired me to write mine better
SirwLove: you do the journal thing well
SirwLove: mine always devolves into blurbs and poetry
SirwLove: and then ranting
indieslave: it makes for interesting reading tho
SirwLove: the best things I post are when I have a great conversation that motivates me to say what I really think... like today with you
indieslave: everyones cant be the same
indieslave: i felt like mine sucked
indieslave: hahahaha
indieslave: ahhh..inspiration is always key
"No where you can be that isn't where you're meant to be... it's easy! All you need is LOVE!"
SirwLove: Eagles may soar, free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.
SirwLove: It is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
SirwLove: Three buddies die in a car crash, and they go to heaven to an orientation.
They are all asked, "When you are in your casket and friends and family are mourning upon you, what would you like to hear them say about you? The first guy says, "I would like to hear them say that I was a great doctor of my time, and a great family man."
The second guy says, "I would like to hear that I was a wonderful husband and school teacher which made a huge difference in our children of tomorrow."
The last guy replies, "I would like to hear them say, "Look! He's moving!"
SirwLove: roses are red violets are blue... Im gonna fuss if I can't talk to you
indieslave: hehehe.
indieslave: sorry i was in the bathroom
indieslave: who said you cant talk to me?
SirwLove: hehehehe
SirwLove: I left you some funnies
indieslave: i am signed on here for you dork
SirwLove: no sheesh
indieslave: well, well, well...... jeeeeeeeeeez
SirwLove: computers suck
SirwLove: its all the computers fault
indieslave: why is your computer doing that so much lately
indieslave: isnt it your work computer?
SirwLove: yes... but I can't go to the IT guy and say....hey dude I can't make my yahoo messenger stay signed on ...they'll think I'm not working hard enough!
hey dude I can't make my yahoo messenger stay signed on
indieslave: lol.. funny i can tell my IT guy
SirwLove: adds "dork" to the list that now includes "cowboy"
indieslave: ride em cowboy thats what i like to call my men when they get all twisted and bent out of shape
SirwLove: so maybe I can still be "one of YOUR men"
SirwLove: lol funny girl
indieslave: yes, i am a funny girl
indieslave: got me a months worth of diet pills... so i am in a very talkative moooood
SirwLove: so today we are talking about God and faith... how's that as a compromise?
indieslave: um interesting
indieslave: u know now that i think about it.. you have mentioned your minister/pastor to me before
SirwLove: I mean ...knowing me... and how I dont' let things go... a new subject to get on to is a good choice
indieslave: yes, and you should let it go
indieslave: we can talk about anything you want.. just not anything about yesterday
SirwLove: My father was a methodist minister
SirwLove: he's now a unitarian
indieslave: oh cool, my dad was an athiest
indieslave: atheist
indieslave: ?
indieslave: he is unitarian?
SirwLove: so he doesn't teach or believe what he taught me
SirwLove: lol
SirwLove: yes
indieslave: how is that for ya?
indieslave: interesting
indieslave: yes
SirwLove: and here's a twist for you
SirwLove: sex and religion
indieslave: does that piss you off?
SirwLove: and orgasm
SirwLove: orgasm is God's way of forgiving ....
SirwLove: it is forgiveness ....
SirwLove: and a connection with the infinite
indieslave: what?
SirwLove: and that is why we say.... "oh God"
SirwLove: when we come
SirwLove: cum cum
SirwLove: thank you God... mmmmmmmmmmmm
indieslave: um.. okay, this is going to sound weird
indieslave: but i had that revelation this morning after d and i had sex (we had sex yay)
SirwLove: listens
indieslave: because.. i always say Oh God.. and dave and i talked about it the other day.. i asked him why he thought so many people said it.. without even realizing
indieslave: well, we didnt really come to a conclusion
indieslave: but this morning(or around 1am)
indieslave: i came.. (would have said oh God, but i had a dick in my mouth), but my husband said it as he came
indieslave: and at that point.. i thought.. that it really is a religious experience.. that he is bringing us closer to him somehow by letting us feel that
SirwLove: an illustration of what I said
SirwLove: exactly
indieslave: yes
SirwLove: God wants us to feel good... and
indieslave: but i never thought about it until this morning
indieslave: weird that you would bring it up
SirwLove: I think that heaven ...being with God... has got to be as blissful as that big O
indieslave: yes? keep goin
indieslave: yes.. it must be
indieslave: how kind of him
SirwLove: now what is life about... it is a journey that teaches us about how to love God better
SirwLove: we are here so that our soul learns
SirwLove: and brings that glory back to God
indieslave: interesting theory
SirwLove: sometimes we DON'T learn and we fail but God still loves us.... like a parent loves a child
SirwLove: most importantly is that we are in fact... all part of ONE
SirwLove: our souls take this journey away from God
SirwLove: and in this life...
SirwLove: bounded by Time and what is apparently reality
SirwLove: we are to learn something that brings that love back to God
SirwLove: so we have free will
SirwLove: and free will is the key
SirwLove: God ...like a loving parent
indieslave: and all this is done because?
SirwLove: wishes that there was not the ugliness and suffering
SirwLove: but can do nothing more than be a guide
SirwLove: like a game show host can't interfere with the game
SirwLove: if we knew the outcome of a baseball game or Jeopardy or anything
SirwLove: we wouldn't do it
SirwLove: so we must live life with blinders
SirwLove: not knowing what of course we think we already know
SirwLove: but the soul MUST learn
SirwLove: **********************
indieslave: i like this conversation ... it makes me feel safe
SirwLove: all of our souls ...together - all of that energy because part of God
SirwLove: and God does all this why?
SirwLove: to be loved
SirwLove: love is the one thing
SirwLove: the only thing
SirwLove: the real link
SirwLove: the point
SirwLove: God wants to know love
SirwLove: we are made in his image so its not hard to understand that longing to be truly loved
SirwLove: and just like with your kid
SirwLove: you want to be loved...but you don't value it as much if you manipulate it from her
SirwLove: you want to show the way and have her come to loving you freely
SirwLove: not force her to it
SirwLove: so free will is important
SirwLove: to love
SirwLove: once that is understood
SirwLove: then we see that
indieslave: and you learned all this where?
SirwLove: the statement ....how can God allow such suffering here on earth is bullshit
SirwLove: because God is not involved
SirwLove: we do it to ourselves
SirwLove: and God suffers ...as a parent watching his kid at day care
indieslave: so what if i believe in God, but have trouble with the concept of Jesus?
SirwLove: learning the lessons
SirwLove: ooooooooooh cool you got all that so lets move on then good!
SirwLove: where did I learn all this?
SirwLove: wow ... 45 yrs of wanting to know
SirwLove: asking talking reading
indieslave: i see.. and coming to your own conclusions as well? or were they pointed out to you, just as you are pointing them out to me?
SirwLove: some of each I'd say
SirwLove: I am open to spiritual guidance
indieslave: i was never one to believe that God created suffering...or allows it.. i know He is love
SirwLove: right
indieslave: when you are talking to me about God, are we talking about God or Jesus?
SirwLove: God is a hopeful spectator... knowing that to interfere means to ruin the point of our journey
SirwLove: God
SirwLove: now we can talk Jesus ...lol
SirwLove: now
SirwLove: as Christians... we are challenged to believe some incredible things... miracles in fact
SirwLove: SirwLove: God is a hopeful spectator... knowing that to interfere means to ruin the point of our journey
SirwLove: God
SirwLove: now we can talk Jesus ...lol
SirwLove: now
SirwLove: as Christians... we are challenged to believe some incredible things... miracles in fact
indieslave: alrighty then, cool
SirwLove: let me suggest
SirwLove: God didn't like be an uninvolved hopeful observer
SirwLove: its hard to be a parent ...nose pressed to the glass ...watching your kid in day care
SirwLove: getting slugged or crying
SirwLove: God hears our prayers... as stupid as they are sometimes
SirwLove: and if that is true...( which I believe )...
SirwLove: then it is understand able that God
SirwLove: would find some way to help
SirwLove: and for Christians... that is Jesus
SirwLove: now ...its been 2000 yrs
SirwLove: and we know humans
SirwLove: and how they can change a story
SirwLove: we know the "Church" as an institution can withhold the truth
SirwLove: we know that it gets deleted, altered, translated and changed
SirwLove: so I look for what is the deeper meaning and the point ...
SirwLove: not the details
SirwLove: not the way to disprove the miracle
SirwLove: but what is the message
SirwLove: God so loved the world that he gave his only son
SirwLove: what greater gift can God give... pretty clever actually
SirwLove: and Jesus is part of God... just like we all are...
SirwLove: but Jesus has the balls to say
SirwLove: I am the son of God
SirwLove: and you are... I am ...we all are sinners
SirwLove: none of us better than another
SirwLove: all to be loved
SirwLove: if we only love God
SirwLove: and Jesus set the example in his life...
SirwLove: set the bar very high...
SirwLove: but none the less... showed the way
SirwLove: and then suffered
SirwLove: and was killed
SirwLove: we all ask god
SirwLove: God don't you understand my suffering?
SirwLove: of course God does
SirwLove: that is why he came to us to live as a man ...to understand our suffering in a very human way
SirwLove: of course God can forgive our Sins
SirwLove: God knows what it is to be human
SirwLove: through the life of Jesus
SirwLove: that is the link
SirwLove: that is the real miracle
SirwLove: not every one on earth HAS to come to God thru Christ
SirwLove: but it is a good way
SirwLove: and an understandble way
SirwLove: and once we accept that we are sinners...capable of our worst
SirwLove: we can then say
SirwLove: I want forgiveness
SirwLove: and we can look to Jesus...
SirwLove: who said... love me and love God
SirwLove: and be forgiven
SirwLove: go and sin no more...
SirwLove: do your best and love
indieslave: so you believe God walked the earth as Jesus, not that he was literally his 'son', right?
indieslave: that Jesus, was God
SirwLove: the rest of the baloney about miracles and virgin birth and where or how is body was resurected...is insignificant
indieslave: right right
SirwLove: I believe Jesus was a human... invested with special insight...
SirwLove: someone that recognized
SirwLove: what we should all know
indieslave: but you said sirwlove58: God knows what it is to be human
sirwlove58: through the life of Jesus
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: God became flesh
indieslave: sirwlove58: that is why he came to us to live as a man ...to understand our suffering in a very human way
SirwLove: thus the Father / Son and Spirit
indieslave: but............ sirwlove58: I believe Jesus was a human... invested with special insight
SirwLove: part of the mystery then...
SirwLove: Jesus
SirwLove: both man and God
SirwLove: and a lesson for us all
SirwLove: God is part of each of us
SirwLove: we are all children of God
SirwLove: brothers and sisters
indieslave: see. that is the question, i can never get answered..............
SirwLove: as was Jesus the man
indieslave: do Christians believe that Jesus was an entity separate from God... Do they believe he was actually God's son, Do they beleive that Jesus was God
SirwLove: it is called the Trinity
SirwLove: and has been argued for centuries
SirwLove: what Catholics believe is slightly different that protestants
SirwLove: and orthodox etc
SirwLove: I don't think it matters what you call it
SirwLove: we are all of the same stuff
indieslave: i seeee
SirwLove: God... son... children of God
SirwLove: we are all part of God
indieslave: it does matter to some - not to me
indieslave: as long as it doesnt matter to God, i dont care
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: love is the point
SirwLove: love is the journey
SirwLove: its not the distance it is the ride
indieslave: i see
SirwLove: and I think the hindus have it right in that
indieslave: so what if i light a green candle to bring good luck with money.. will i go to hell?
SirwLove: our souls must keep on that journey till we get it or
SirwLove: end up with the devil hating
SirwLove: ... temptation to hate and be our worst is what sends us to hell
SirwLove: but even that is not enough
SirwLove: it is rejecting love
SirwLove: rejecting God's love that sends us to hell
SirwLove: both mentally and physically in this life
indieslave: but rejecting Jesus?
SirwLove: I think the ultimate HELL then
SirwLove: is being sent back to live another life of pain cuz you didn't get it the first time
indieslave: is on earth?
SirwLove: right
SirwLove: this life
SirwLove: can be hell
SirwLove: or the path to heaven
SirwLove: it is our choice
indieslave: ahh..
indieslave: yes. i see.. especially if heaven is like a constant orgasm
indieslave:
indieslave: i like your philosophy
indieslave: a lot
SirwLove: you made me think yesterday ...alot
SirwLove: when you said we had not talked about this
SirwLove: it is important
indieslave: you are an amazing person, Joel
indieslave: yes, especially since we consider ourselves to be friends
SirwLove: it is why....( oh here he goes again )
SirwLove: I feel so badly when I hurt someone
SirwLove: I am not here to hurt
SirwLove: I am here to love
SirwLove: so no matter what I do ...if I hurt... I have failed
SirwLove: and no matter what I do
SirwLove: if I love
SirwLove: I have done what God wanted
SirwLove: "love your enemy"
indieslave: darling..this is the last time i will tell you.. i am not hurt
SirwLove: especially the hardest request
indieslave: so hence your dilemma with divorce
SirwLove: yes that too
indieslave: interesting things you have in your mind
SirwLove: I truly love when you call me darling ...fuck I love that
indieslave: my concept of God is very similar to yours, however, i couldnt have ever put it so eloquently
SirwLove: all my life I have prayed...
SirwLove: since I was a little boy hoping for a sign
SirwLove: one day I got a message... and I'm on the phone will tell you about that in a few
SirwLove: okay back
indieslave: yay
SirwLove: okay so about 2 yrs ago
SirwLove: on a Friday night
SirwLove: I was so upset and about ready to give up and die
SirwLove: I was praying please please...give me some word to know you are there God
SirwLove: and fuck me if I didn't get a real answer... it was spooky
SirwLove: 3 words
SirwLove: as I said the hardest request
SirwLove: "love your enemy"
SirwLove: and I have struggled to fill that one request...
SirwLove: of course it is easy to love ...those we love
SirwLove: but to love your enemy
SirwLove: ah!
SirwLove: makes me wish I hadn't asked for help sometimes
SirwLove: so there ya go... my take on God
SirwLove: I love this subject
SirwLove:
SirwLove: here is something I don't like to admit... I love you
indieslave: what? wait..... what was that last part there?
indieslave: lol
indieslave: of course, you love all Gods creatures
indieslave: i always love my enemies..
indieslave:
SirwLove: to me you are a real friend... and the thought of you pulling away... hurts 1000x times more than any stupid internet friend
SirwLove: if you get my drift
indieslave: i get your drift man
SirwLove: at least I expect most internet friends to drift away and hurt me...so I am usually ready for it... but you ... I have invested trust and passion and care...
SirwLove: I can't abide the thought of you feeling second ... you are always in my pocket and in the palm of my hand.
SirwLove: shuts up
indieslave:
SirwLove: one thing I can say
SirwLove: I miss reading your stuff
indieslave: what stuff? my journal?
SirwLove: yep
indieslave: thank you.. i miss writing in it
SirwLove: I told venita last night that the way you write... always inspired me to write mine better
SirwLove: you do the journal thing well
SirwLove: mine always devolves into blurbs and poetry
SirwLove: and then ranting
indieslave: it makes for interesting reading tho
SirwLove: the best things I post are when I have a great conversation that motivates me to say what I really think... like today with you
indieslave: everyones cant be the same
indieslave: i felt like mine sucked
indieslave: hahahaha
indieslave: ahhh..inspiration is always key
"No where you can be that isn't where you're meant to be... it's easy! All you need is LOVE!"
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